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		<title>By: Sourcing3 Buyer &#38; Supplier Magazine - Top 35 B2B Marketing Posts for May 2010</title>
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		<description>[...] The Facebook Privacy Conundrum – Not Limited to Facebook- Marketing Edge, May 19, 2010 A number of posts recently about privacy has prompted me to write this post. Can you trust Facebook? really, no more than you can trust any one organization with many investors. One person is. Hitting on a single topic in marketing, social media and business communications. Quick and to the point. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Minnesota Monday – Communications Bloggers Posts From The Week Ending 05/23/10 &#124; e-Strategy Internet Marketing Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Minnesota Monday – Communications Bloggers Posts From The Week Ending 05/23/10 &#124; e-Strategy Internet Marketing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 11:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Albert Maruggi talks Facebook privacy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: GRLitman (Gregg Litman)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 20:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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Missed this. You do the inspiring, sir. RT @AlbertMaruggi: Ok @GRLitman inspires me to even deeper thoughts on privacy [link to post]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; - Posted using Chat Catcher </description>
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Missed this. You do the inspiring, sir. RT @AlbertMaruggi: Ok @GRLitman inspires me to even deeper thoughts on privacy [link to post]</p>
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		<title>By: GRLitman (Gregg Litman)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 20:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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I don&#039;t post comments on many blogs, but @AlbertMaruggi nailed FB privacy.  Like sleezy continuation marketing. [link to post]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; - Posted using Chat Catcher </description>
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I don&#8217;t post comments on many blogs, but @AlbertMaruggi nailed FB privacy.  Like sleezy continuation marketing. [link to post]</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Maruggi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert Maruggi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 00:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregg, good seeing you at SMBMSP today.  to follow up on our conversation. The Facebook privacy thing may lead to at type of warning label style Terms &amp; Conditions notifications if that is at all possible.  You know instead of lawyer-written paragraphs and subparagraphs it might be in bullets or even better common craft video.  

Which brings me to my next big idea.  Technology is God, that&#039;s right God.  If you combine your web searches and surfing with your credit card transactions, you get a good idea of what someone is thinking and doing 24 hours a day.  I think it was Lincoln that said, character is what you do when no one is watching.  

Perhaps the privacy thing and the fear of exposing ones every digital move is rooted less in the notion of being exploited by marketers and more in the idea that we are getting dangerously close to not ever being alone with our thoughts.  Another aspect is that knowledge of my habits and keywords still is a superficial slice of a person.  Does searching on depression mean I&#039;m depressed, or a family member or a report I&#039;m doing for graduate school?  Perhaps it&#039;s this incompleteness of information gathered by Facebook and others that may lead to a wrong interpretation is a concern. 

Yes deep thoughts these are, and best saved for another pub crawl.  thanks for commenting.  I&#039;ll chalk these up to more food items for a St. Paul food shelter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregg, good seeing you at SMBMSP today.  to follow up on our conversation. The Facebook privacy thing may lead to at type of warning label style Terms &#038; Conditions notifications if that is at all possible.  You know instead of lawyer-written paragraphs and subparagraphs it might be in bullets or even better common craft video.  </p>
<p>Which brings me to my next big idea.  Technology is God, that&#8217;s right God.  If you combine your web searches and surfing with your credit card transactions, you get a good idea of what someone is thinking and doing 24 hours a day.  I think it was Lincoln that said, character is what you do when no one is watching.  </p>
<p>Perhaps the privacy thing and the fear of exposing ones every digital move is rooted less in the notion of being exploited by marketers and more in the idea that we are getting dangerously close to not ever being alone with our thoughts.  Another aspect is that knowledge of my habits and keywords still is a superficial slice of a person.  Does searching on depression mean I&#8217;m depressed, or a family member or a report I&#8217;m doing for graduate school?  Perhaps it&#8217;s this incompleteness of information gathered by Facebook and others that may lead to a wrong interpretation is a concern. </p>
<p>Yes deep thoughts these are, and best saved for another pub crawl.  thanks for commenting.  I&#8217;ll chalk these up to more food items for a St. Paul food shelter.</p>
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		<title>By: Privacy: Enough Already &#124; Ephemera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Privacy: Enough Already &#124; Ephemera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 01:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Maruggi makes the point that consumers shouldn&#8217;t trust their privacy to any corporation that is subject to investor [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gregg Litman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregg Litman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 14:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Albert, I loved this post from start to finish, but feel you really nailed it in the comment to Mike.  Initially, I thought people were uncomfortable with Facebook&#039;s approach to privacy because it felt like Big Brother, but you&#039;re right, they&#039;re really concerned about FB acting like continuation marketers.  I realize we&#039;ll never have true online privacy, but by erring on the side of the shady, Facebook called all of its practices into question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Albert, I loved this post from start to finish, but feel you really nailed it in the comment to Mike.  Initially, I thought people were uncomfortable with Facebook&#8217;s approach to privacy because it felt like Big Brother, but you&#8217;re right, they&#8217;re really concerned about FB acting like continuation marketers.  I realize we&#8217;ll never have true online privacy, but by erring on the side of the shady, Facebook called all of its practices into question.</p>
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		<title>By: amaruggi</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 13:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike for sure bro agree with your point.  Funny even as both of us are capitalists there is a point in the growth of a company where lines get blurry and definitions of right an wrong develop subtleties that give a false sense of moral cover to certain actions.  These are not actions done by bad people, these are actions that occur in the &quot;fog of business&quot;  

Your comment on default criteria are similar to the classic telemarketing tactic of continuation marketing.  That&#039;s when the telemarket says let me send you out a package to review for 60 days, if you don&#039;t like it cancel and if you do like it your credit card will be billed.  That is not right.  

So completely agree in that respect Facebook errs on the side of the shady.  

PS - reader you can follow Mike on twitter @mjkeliher fun guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike for sure bro agree with your point.  Funny even as both of us are capitalists there is a point in the growth of a company where lines get blurry and definitions of right an wrong develop subtleties that give a false sense of moral cover to certain actions.  These are not actions done by bad people, these are actions that occur in the &#8220;fog of business&#8221;  </p>
<p>Your comment on default criteria are similar to the classic telemarketing tactic of continuation marketing.  That&#8217;s when the telemarket says let me send you out a package to review for 60 days, if you don&#8217;t like it cancel and if you do like it your credit card will be billed.  That is not right.  </p>
<p>So completely agree in that respect Facebook errs on the side of the shady.  </p>
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		<title>By: JaDat Nilla</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 13:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Facebook would now be considered the third largest country.  Crazy isn&#039;t it?  Check out this ClickZ article that I came across yesterday.  Thanks for the post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Facebook would now be considered the third largest country.  Crazy isn&#8217;t it?  Check out this ClickZ article that I came across yesterday.  Thanks for the post!</p>
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		<title>By: mjkeliher (Mike Keliher)</title>
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		<dc:creator>mjkeliher (Mike Keliher)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 12:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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Nice post from @albertmaruggi on privacy, Facebook and the bigger issues at hand here [link to post]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; - Posted using Chat Catcher </description>
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Nice post from @albertmaruggi on privacy, Facebook and the bigger issues at hand here [link to post]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Keliher</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 12:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen. I hope more people read this.

One issue, though: I agree that we can&#039;t fault Facebook for what amounts to trying to make a buck to pay its operating costs and turn a little profit. That&#039;s what makes the world go &#039;round. But just because the consumers&#039; jones for the impossible mix of free price point and premium product is more to blame than Facebook doesn&#039;t mean Facebook is in the clear.

For starters, opting all users into these new programs by default is, I believe, pushing it. Even marketers have a higher standard than that, with the common best practice of requiring a significant relationship and/or an explicit opt-in from consumers before sending an e-mail newsletter -- you know, to protect their privacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen. I hope more people read this.</p>
<p>One issue, though: I agree that we can&#8217;t fault Facebook for what amounts to trying to make a buck to pay its operating costs and turn a little profit. That&#8217;s what makes the world go &#8217;round. But just because the consumers&#8217; jones for the impossible mix of free price point and premium product is more to blame than Facebook doesn&#8217;t mean Facebook is in the clear.</p>
<p>For starters, opting all users into these new programs by default is, I believe, pushing it. Even marketers have a higher standard than that, with the common best practice of requiring a significant relationship and/or an explicit opt-in from consumers before sending an e-mail newsletter &#8212; you know, to protect their privacy.</p>
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