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	<title>Comments on: Conversation is part of all marketing, whether you know it or not</title>
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		<title>By: Albert Maruggi</title>
		<link>http://www.providentpartners.net/blog/index.php/2008/04/14/conversation-is-part-of-all-marketing-whether-you-know-it-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-65241</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert Maruggi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon perhaps I didn&#039;t give you a complete answer to your specific question which was &quot;How would you go about the issue of transitioning them from a feeling that ‘they’ own the customer and conversation, to the company owns the conversation?&quot;

Try this, make a life size body outline on the floor of your office.  Then create lines to different parts of the body pointing roughly to the different parts of the company such as, customer services, product development, the receptionist, marketing, sales, accounting, etc etc etc.  

what do you think of that one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon perhaps I didn&#8217;t give you a complete answer to your specific question which was &#8220;How would you go about the issue of transitioning them from a feeling that ‘they’ own the customer and conversation, to the company owns the conversation?&#8221;</p>
<p>Try this, make a life size body outline on the floor of your office.  Then create lines to different parts of the body pointing roughly to the different parts of the company such as, customer services, product development, the receptionist, marketing, sales, accounting, etc etc etc.  </p>
<p>what do you think of that one?</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Maruggi</title>
		<link>http://www.providentpartners.net/blog/index.php/2008/04/14/conversation-is-part-of-all-marketing-whether-you-know-it-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-65233</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert Maruggi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 00:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll say this Simon, a good sales person deserves a lot of credit for understanding the customers&#039; needs and matching them with the company&#039;s value propositions.  

The age old turf battle of sales and marketing is one I&#039;ve been in, observed, and help reconcile.  I found there are two major approaches.

1) Marketing allows sales to take the lead on customer relationships.  Marketing gives sales everything they need.  when they are unsuccessful, then marketing has an opportunity to be an equal player. Fighting a half way decent sales team is a tough battle because they generate revenue.

2) Marketing needs to do its research to identify prospects, marketi segments and, now even communities, that have one or more of the following attributes for the company  1) better fit as in shorter sales cycle, easier to get a sale, 2) more profitable over the life of the customer, or 3) sheer volume of prospects through targeting, brand building, message, and engagement. 

that&#039;s my take, I&#039;ll see if Twitter friends have another take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll say this Simon, a good sales person deserves a lot of credit for understanding the customers&#8217; needs and matching them with the company&#8217;s value propositions.  </p>
<p>The age old turf battle of sales and marketing is one I&#8217;ve been in, observed, and help reconcile.  I found there are two major approaches.</p>
<p>1) Marketing allows sales to take the lead on customer relationships.  Marketing gives sales everything they need.  when they are unsuccessful, then marketing has an opportunity to be an equal player. Fighting a half way decent sales team is a tough battle because they generate revenue.</p>
<p>2) Marketing needs to do its research to identify prospects, marketi segments and, now even communities, that have one or more of the following attributes for the company  1) better fit as in shorter sales cycle, easier to get a sale, 2) more profitable over the life of the customer, or 3) sheer volume of prospects through targeting, brand building, message, and engagement. </p>
<p>that&#8217;s my take, I&#8217;ll see if Twitter friends have another take.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Griffiths</title>
		<link>http://www.providentpartners.net/blog/index.php/2008/04/14/conversation-is-part-of-all-marketing-whether-you-know-it-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-65231</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Griffiths</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting podcast, as always.

One things that interests me is that I work in an area with a very traditional sales team. They like to &#039;own&#039; the conversation, even if to be honest they are not sales trained. How would you go about the issue of transitioning them from a feeling that &#039;they&#039; own the customer and conversation, to the company owns the conversation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting podcast, as always.</p>
<p>One things that interests me is that I work in an area with a very traditional sales team. They like to &#8216;own&#8217; the conversation, even if to be honest they are not sales trained. How would you go about the issue of transitioning them from a feeling that &#8216;they&#8217; own the customer and conversation, to the company owns the conversation?</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Maruggi</title>
		<link>http://www.providentpartners.net/blog/index.php/2008/04/14/conversation-is-part-of-all-marketing-whether-you-know-it-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-64736</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert Maruggi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoff as you and I have twittered there is a large network that can be moblized for the greater good.  My idealistic hope is this linking of individuals, and in turn their networks brings about greater tolerance, understanding, and knowledge.  

I also hope that attempts to manipulate those networks are kept at a minimum.  

Also the mutual respect, with a dash of humor, shared online with others to observe brings us just a bit closer together in human spirit.  Compliments to you and Jaffe. 

Now as for Monty, given his ability to sell badges, perhaps Andrew Barons needs your help on selling his Twitter list.  

Ebay Twitter Followers Sale http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=160229562828 

Chris Brogan - http://www.chrisbrogan.com/is-your-community-for-sale/ 

Brian Solis http://bub.blicio.us/?p=854 

and Business Week article http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/apr2008/tc20080414_539072_page_2.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff as you and I have twittered there is a large network that can be moblized for the greater good.  My idealistic hope is this linking of individuals, and in turn their networks brings about greater tolerance, understanding, and knowledge.  </p>
<p>I also hope that attempts to manipulate those networks are kept at a minimum.  </p>
<p>Also the mutual respect, with a dash of humor, shared online with others to observe brings us just a bit closer together in human spirit.  Compliments to you and Jaffe. </p>
<p>Now as for Monty, given his ability to sell badges, perhaps Andrew Barons needs your help on selling his Twitter list.  </p>
<p>Ebay Twitter Followers Sale <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=160229562828" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=160229562828</a> </p>
<p>Chris Brogan &#8211; <a href="http://www.chrisbrogan.com/is-your-community-for-sale/" rel="nofollow">http://www.chrisbrogan.com/is-your-community-for-sale/</a> </p>
<p>Brian Solis <a href="http://bub.blicio.us/?p=854" rel="nofollow">http://bub.blicio.us/?p=854</a> </p>
<p>and Business Week article <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/apr2008/tc20080414_539072_page_2.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/apr2008/tc20080414_539072_page_2.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Monty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Livingston bought Jaffe&#039;s badge for $500? Who&#039;s the genius who was able to sell that to him for such a high price? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Livingston bought Jaffe&#8217;s badge for $500? Who&#8217;s the genius who was able to sell that to him for such a high price? <img src='http://www.providentpartners.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Livingston</title>
		<link>http://www.providentpartners.net/blog/index.php/2008/04/14/conversation-is-part-of-all-marketing-whether-you-know-it-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-64636</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Livingston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m definitely both.  Great podcast! Joe, you did a wonderful job for Frozen Peas.  Well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m definitely both.  Great podcast! Joe, you did a wonderful job for Frozen Peas.  Well done.</p>
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